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kind of structure. They have talks and demos and vendors and testing, flea markets, drawings, you know. And then there are step tables. And that's usually the theme that runs through them. And so, yeah, so one of the things is in our community, one of the things that we get out of it, the clubs come together because they usually have tables. And that's the one time a year back then. Anyways, we don't do that anymore. But that's when we get set together. And I have met some interesting people, of course, Gordon West and Bill Pyle. They're my favorites. And Chip Margalee, I don't know if you guys ever heard that name or the call saying K7JA. He is now SK. But he's the one that was on TV with Lee General.