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the herd to the list as well. And yeah, well a great question. Of course there are kind of ham faiths and all the ice across here in the UK are nothing in size compared to what you have over there, the ham, the engine and everything else. But I haven't even been to one of the bigger kind of meetings across here in the UK, I have to say. And one of the last meetings I went to was, oh I don't know, oh it's been me 20 years ago, 20 years ago, maybe even longer than 20 years ago. And it was a local ham club that they had this taken a rally. And some of the big names were there, I do believe I come with there and they, Yessie was there and they I think Kenwood was there at the time. But yeah it was quite good, but kind of bringing back kind of thing as well. And I had a few kind of old bits of that, I mean, a video gear.