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So we gave the test and at least again in person at the public library and that's no longer necessary. We do it online now by Zoom, a Zoom conference. So that's how volunteer examiners are testing around the world. But we are using the same there over. Well that's good. That's good. That's the thing about technology. Things change and you have to change ways that are kind of get left behind. I didn't get the license to 2004. I went to a, what is it? The field day, summer field day in 2004 and I had joined a club but I went to the field day to try to see if there's anything.