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After 9-11, of course, you know many of us did not work because nobody wanted to put crews on the road, nobody wanted to move forward with projects, nobody wanted their products or to be associated with the event. And the production industry just really slammed on the brakes around 9-11. And so I just kind of re-examined life. And I had a daughter go into college in a year or two after that, and I thought, boy, I'm taking money out of savings to live right now. So I got back into satellite industry at that point, and that's where I've been ever since. And so I had a company called Satellite AV and then a company which I sold about 13 years ago now called Glory Star, Christian Satellite Service off of KU-G19. And yeah, so did a lot of stuff dealing with it.