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little longer until it stopped. So far very impressed. It looks cleaner than it's ever looked. You know I've got a vacuum cleaner now in there that I do manually but this thing does a really really good job. And as far as hiking compared to biking, well the biking is a lot less impact on your joints and stuff and yeah you're rolling a lot more cardio because when I'm coming downhill I'm still pedaling. Really pedaling hard probably harder downhill than uphill because you're trying to really make time. So yeah that's a good one there. And yeah Joyce mentioned pumpkin pie. The homemade pumpkin pie we had on the farm we would literally get the pumpkins, clean them out, pull the seeds out, mom would make pumpkin pie. We would put all the pumpkin seeds on cooking sheets and bake those in the oven with some salt. And then we'd make you know jack-o'-lanterns or whatever with the pumpkin shell. So nothing was