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So anyway, so when I was doing PODA last week, I got this really interesting contact. And it was from someone named Bob Heil, the guy who did all the great hand legend. He has all kinds of headphones and microphones and equipment and worked with a lot of great rock bands. But the real Bob Heil passed away a couple years ago. But I made a contact with someone else named Bob Heil. But what's interesting is I just kind of assumed it was like his son or something like that. By the way, this is on FT8, so I didn't have an actually talk to this person. But I could find no reference to the actual Bob.