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So anyway, so when I was doing PODA last week, I got this really interesting contact, and it was from someone named Bob Heil, you know, the guy who, you know, did all the great ham legend. He has all kinds of headphones and microphones and equipment and worked with a lot of great rock fans. But the real Bob Heil passed away a couple years ago, but I made a contact with someone else named Bob Heil. But what's interesting is I just kind of assumed it was like his son or something like that. And by the way, this is on FT8, so I didn't have it actually talk to this person. But I could find no reference to the actual Bob.