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to a mixer board. So it's way better audio quality in my opinion than maybe a headset or something and I'm hoping the audio sounds good at least. I lost the windscreen on the microphone so you can probably hear some pops or whatever in there. But all in all of that system now for actual hand radio equipment currently I'm just using a little bow thing. DM5R does 10 watts of output and it's got a 15 inch whip antenna. My local repeater is about 8 miles from here so I mean it does okay but you know echolinks usually what I'm on so but it's not bad, not bad at all.