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land in a tree and hide there until everybody else got killed apart from one. Get down from the tree and then I got killed of course. So I made it a second place. I know not the way to play the game but hey that's the only I could do it. That would get the first though. GW8S that'll keep me 0wma again. So you and I, Graham, we're all right at that level where we all do the old school games. The new stuff is fantastic for graphics but yeah I can't play those things. I mean they're just too detailed for me and I just can't figure it out. I just like to just say the uphill shooter stuff like Galaga and just shoot them up. The whole purpose of those things was that you're never going to win no matter what. It's just the game got faster and faster and faster and pretty soon you just can't do it.