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we become the more layers of bureaucracy, rules, opinions. Now we've got the basic network. We've got the reflector. And I'm looking at the GMR. We also got the repeater owners. So we've got all these possible procedures, rules, policies and things that we have to keep. It just kind of takes the fun for me. So, you know, I think for quite a long time I'm probably just going to stick with AllStar and, you know, when I can't do AllStar EchoLink and probably just leave it at that. Because, I don't know, I just see it super-pryge here for me and that kind of creeps me out. I could say that for our club, and I've heard that too before about other clubs, once they get away a combination of analog and visual repeater, like what we have, then guess what I mean?