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and put the control head up in the top, just like what the other gentleman was explaining. And I was getting them by the skid loads from the state department, because I was buying scrap from them. And these hand radio operators came in, and that's what they heard rumors that I had some of the old Motorola stuff. And they was coming in and buying them like hotcakes and put them on six meters. The old state police radios. I was getting the antennas in the whole works. And so I got rubbing elbows with them a little bit. I always had an interest in radio. So that's what got me started into amateur radio. Then what? 15 years, I worked for a scrap guard for 40 years. And 15 years later, maybe 20, I don't know, when everybody