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But, you know, I have made one contact, it seemed like it was in New York, 35 miles west of New York City you were saying. But that was the only contact that I've made on Ken over. Oh, well, maybe it's not open. I haven't been up there quite a while either. It's fun when it's open, it's not open, and it's not open. Then try 15. So, I'll try that. Like I say, I'm still really new at this, but anyway, I appreciate the information and I will try those other policies and I do whip through them real quick, but I have more luck on the 20 meter and the 40 meter bands.