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I'm just wondering if there's someone out there that's going to give me a report of in Sydney, Australia."},{"confidence":0.9068377986550331,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:30:29.410295+00:00","id":104092,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104110,"text":"We need to treat W&Z player. That was great."},{"confidence":0.10352420806884766,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:29:32.089504+00:00","id":104091,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104109,"text":"."},{"confidence":0.9151086509227753,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:28:54.866538+00:00","id":104090,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104108,"text":"Yep, next step won't bring us one week closer to these solstice AP-7JQQ. I don't know why my tongue ain't working tonight."},{"confidence":0.6600794392553242,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:24:26.954162+00:00","id":104085,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104103,"text":"And this is what happened in Russia in 2013. Where was that? Chuyawak in 2013. It was an air burst that had been shattered windows. Some people got injured. So as well as scientists this new, if it happens, this new program will all fight. It will look better tapped on the, yep, on these aspects. And there was a station there. You were rather garbled. I think you had a comment. Come on in."},{"confidence":0.887176975607872,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:23:28.908573+00:00","id":104084,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104102,"text":"the planetary defense capability, the catch and the asteroids coming from the sunward direction. So this would solve that problem."},{"confidence":0.833598181605339,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:23:09.232752+00:00","id":104083,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104101,"text":"Hey, this is VATRiac Kayak. We're in the additional stations built through to join us. And here, VATRiac Kayak, come on in. If you have a comment, come on in with us now as well."},{"confidence":0.6876886002719402,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:22:36.659882+00:00","id":104082,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104100,"text":"South is associated with this silo gentry reel. And the whole week closed here tonight. I always like to thank those who get us in here each week. Those who are not just getting visual modes, problems on this but I'm a repeater that I use each week, thank you for that. And I think we'll tie the ribbon here for this week. Thanks everyone for coming here. And thanks for listening. We're this last of all. Tom, thank you for your presentation here tonight. It's not a very enjoyable informative. We'll pick up again next week and until then, stay safe and well everyone. And we'll talk again next week for another site now. E-H-E-C-X, I'll be heading on. The E-H-E-C-X is a great year. You're going to be safe and well. We'll talk again next week. E-H-E-W-V-Z is clear. Thank you."},{"confidence":0.6947645197312038,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:22:33.712542+00:00","id":104081,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104099,"text":"All right, well, I think we'll kind of rip into this point. Let me just reach out one more time. I'm on the station if you'd like to try again. I'll be over. I'll be over. Sorry. You're not making it in. All right. We're going to tie the ribbons here for this week. We'll pick up Ian next week. And before we head off here, I will just mention that if you'd like to present something, I'll link my column if you want to come in. Let me know. Let me email it on to yours. That can also reach me through the Skyward After Real Pump website, www.xywide.ca, or just Google search for it. There's a little section there for the science net. You can click on that. There's a Google area where you can send me a message and I go to somebody. You can find email. And the internet."},{"confidence":0.7466790344566107,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:17:29.632013+00:00","id":104073,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104091,"text":"to an optimum two-way given the second thought. So logically, we might be interesting, but I'm about to go down. And there were over 6,200 exoplanets founded more than 4,000 seminar solar systems. Most stars have at least one planet, and there are a hundred billion stars in the Milky Way. Multiply the Milky Way by trillions, because there's many galaxies out there, like if you have any star systems out there with planets orbiting them in either one month planet or a solar system equivalent. And some of these planets could easily be home to intelligent light, disrupting. So it's pretty hard to find them, that of all the planets and solar systems out there around all these trillion, trillion, and trillion stars, that we are the only light form that's popped up in the Pacific. And that is, to me, that would be an absurdity in the evolution of the universe."},{"confidence":0.9099131625364808,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:17:26.984667+00:00","id":104072,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104090,"text":"space, and it's perfectly benefiting from the high-ballation, that's the flow in the time of the culture, and the speed of light. And also in accordance with relativity, the mass of a spacecraft increases with the speed, so this means more energy is expanded to propel it, and reaching light speed will then use infinite energy and infinite mass, and that's absolutely impossible. So in addition, for modern technology, we still haven't found a practical solution for dealing with space radiation. As you pass hydrogen atoms at light speeds, they become huge sources of another source of radiation in a form of heat. Enough heat, and the space-class hall becomes compromised. Nothing. And another reason for non-communication is that they're just basically ignoring us. We are likely not advancing up or significantly"},{"confidence":0.8697354557613531,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:17:24.770723+00:00","id":104071,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104089,"text":"What's going on about the universe suggests that they may exist. There seem to be three reasons or so that they might be marked by visiting us. The first one, and this is the one that gets the most often, is that space. It's huge. In fact, it's huge to be on imagination. Take for instance our nearest star system, the approximately 4.3 years away. The fastest rocket technology that's available today is a fraction of the speed of light which would take about 6,650 years to get there. And for practical long-term distance, space travel, in terms of human lifespan, much higher velocities are required. The Italians, and I'm sure some do, do have propulsion systems that allow for significant velocities to compare to light. And that would enable them to across huge regions."},{"confidence":0.9491989240050316,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:17:09.268239+00:00","id":104070,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104088,"text":"which was written up in the general physical review at D. So if you want to go down a little for some more information regarding that, the general of the physical review D."},{"confidence":0.6070878108342488,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:17:08.537464+00:00","id":104069,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104087,"text":"you know, we're on to the mission for orbital reconstruction of asteroids, for Laura. And the mission would build a fleet of six cubes that we could arrive to known near Earth asteroids where they would attach themselves or orbit very close and they'd be able to study in detail what remote sensing systems would not be able to accomplish. The implementation of this paper could not have happened at a better time in 2029, 350 meter wide, 1,150 foot asteroid, a perforate. We'll zip-postor, in fact, to be postively, even some of our geosynchronous satellite. And it'll be probably, I'm thinking it should be naked eye visible at that point. And one weak point in our rocket planet."},{"confidence":0.80830098756335,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:17:06.576564+00:00","id":104068,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104086,"text":"All right, well, I've got a couple more here for tonight, but I think I'm going to save those for next week. I should have three, but I'll save maybe two of those for next week. It is getting late here in my home location here. So I think I'm going to try the rooms here in a moment. It was a pick up again next week, but just before we go over here, we're talking about asteroids or any other new objects. And there's a new program that's been proposed called Remora, stopping. The name Remora sets a cam to the fish that attached to the sausage arms from back there, sort of a parasitic fish that feed off the parasites on the shark. There was a white paper, it was submitted to the UK Space Agency's 2035 Space Frontiers program. This is available on the archive, it's a pre-print server, and it calls for a feed of a CubeSat, that's a tag, track, and characterized multiple levels of error of objects. And this is actually referred to as the..."},{"confidence":0.9143537059426308,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:16:26.785326+00:00","id":104067,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104085,"text":"I've got a couple more here for tonight before we tie the ribbon. Before I do, any additional stations out there like to join us, or any stations instead of joining us, or joining us, I'd like to make a comment."},{"confidence":0.6969114661216735,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:16:20.123683+00:00","id":104066,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104084,"text":"they do a bulk reduction of the tissue to try and get the parasite out. And then from there, some antiparasitic medication for, for quite some time. So yes, this is, so both of you have dogs in the areas where there's coyotes, coyotes, and I suggest that if not the left, I run off these teeth in the hand just so they don't get into something that can cause problems for them. And for yourself."},{"confidence":0.8805417149726834,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:16:15.114186+00:00","id":104065,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104082,"text":"And at the beginning of the net, I mentioned a few of those. And if I could mention there's not a few very standard Canadian UFO reports that even for this day have gone unresolved. One particular was Shannick Harper. Do you want to get that a look up? It was an interesting one for this day. And it was all, you know, it was one of the first cases where both the U.S. and Canadian and Navy cooperated in this map search for this day. This one here is both the reason. Some reasons why aliens are not visiting us. And some various polls worldwide show that about one third of the population believes aliens, advanced intelligence light forms are out there."},{"confidence":0.9452550522983074,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:11:40.652807+00:00","id":104057,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104074,"text":"And this is the A3KX, more than the other. This is the Science and TechNet. I'm standing here at the main stations out there. If you would like to join us, you have a comment, come on in. And then this next topic for tonight is what a daily tape form is spreading across America, and that North America has to be precise."},{"confidence":0.9007586315274239,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:11:28.373645+00:00","id":104056,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104073,"text":"although I don't know okay a V8 3VWX that's it for the weather the world cup is it stands right now to an improved schedule breakdown of results after this we're gonna see who gets out of the who gets out of the home group standings back to you Kent"},{"confidence":0.9341944717408086,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:10:45.550337+00:00","id":104055,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104072,"text":"where people can explain which is why they call this singularity. And one question that has come up regarding whether a black hole is an entirely different object, maybe an ultra-compact star. They can't be seen because of gravitational effects, such as a gravistar. Aside from containing outer layers of rigor or matter, they could be filled with dark energy. This is the energy that exerts no word push that balances in their map, and it's like it's going on with our universe. Gravistar is much easier to accept a black hole, do the fact that you don't have a singularity or a vent horizon, but are almost as compact and massive. What is interesting is that the collapse above a large enough star into a gravistar could trigger the creation of a universe inside the collapsing matter. In fact, it would be much like ours, and that it would have an outward acceleration covered by dark energy."},{"confidence":0.760649673640728,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:10:43.103289+00:00","id":104054,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104071,"text":"Another one here, but collapsing stars could generate many universes. And when these really, really huge stars, use of other fuel, radiation pressure can no longer stabilize the gravitational forces and the star collapses under its own map. This creates a singularity. Only if the stars are big enough. And from this, the black hole to the floor. Black holes remain up. To this day, there remain a challenge for science with still many questions about them. Some of the questions are, how can so many of you have the solar mass, something that so many solar masses have accumulated in a single singularity point? How is it that space-time curves infinitely at that point? Because it's a mass breakdown. It's the singularity of no one knows what really happens. In fact, at that point, it's through the other realm."},{"confidence":0.8673095984591378,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:09:59.290782+00:00","id":104053,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104070,"text":"and they give people material on that. The person can seem to look watching me with a food well, that's another or. The dog is sniffing around and from the cross most family pets or family dogs are coming to contact with family members quite a bit. Every face down to your dog passes that way. Sometimes, I may not show up until five to 15 years after exposure and this makes treatment somewhat challenging. And it's still not known how the parasite became established in North America. And it's also been found in Ontario here and it's considered an endemic. And surgery in long term, anti-parasetic medication is required for this particular parasite just dropping. Oftentimes, it will be removed to set, but if a mass is large enough, I'd need to review what's referred to as a cytositoritoxin."},{"confidence":0.9212488325933615,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:09:56.896593+00:00","id":104052,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104069,"text":"And when it affects a person or animal, it can produce cancer like cyst in the liver and in some cases, other organs. Without treatment, the infection can be fatal, stopping. And pylids. And other varicose painters act as primary codes for adult paper worms. They can carry thousands of worms in your intestines without many harmful effects. Rodents are another part of the cycle. Many eat treats with containing coyote feces. They then become infected. Stifts develop in the roving slivers, eventually causing illness or death. Coyotes become infected after eating a rodent in the cycle continues. It's dropping. And people and domestic dogs are often considered accidental hosts. People can pick it up with a coyote that's been in an area where there's berries, strawberries, blueberries, things like that."},{"confidence":0.9792523448239081,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:09:54.598848+00:00","id":104051,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104068,"text":"no signs of illness. And to investigate dogs, and result in severe disease, same as the same as it transferred to humans. And for tens of years now, the parasite has been seen as a big public health concern across parts of Europe and Asia. However, here in North America, it was, until recently, I considered it very rare. And that changed 15 years ago when affections began popping up in dogs and people in Canada and into the Midwest. And researchers at the University of Washington looked at water cayos in the Puget Sound area and found 37, 37 sharing a parasite. We saw a new repolished and paused and neglected tropical diseases. And the leading officer of the study said that there have been numerous dogs getting sick and a handful of people."},{"confidence":0.7316292979651027,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:05:09.596906+00:00","id":104041,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104057,"text":"and I have to watch the schedule for the will of fortune, jeopardy and the news. You have to do a daily change of schedule. It stinks KB3JQU. Okay, QSL. I'm seeing that the broadcasting rights holder for Fox is US English, NBC Universal, which is US Spanish, so Bell Media, which is TSN for us here in Canada. Okay, interesting. I guess those guys have overlapped. My wife would not be happy. She wants to actually know my wife, I mean her and I, we like what we like. I don't like FIFA, like World Cup. I shouldn't say that too loud, but it's not interrupting our TV because it's on the sports network. TSN over here, so we just watch all the games. Anyhow. Okay, interesting to know. So you got to suffer through that. I guess you and everybody else. But I don't think it's affecting Sunday night football."},{"confidence":0.9277999358517783,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:05:06.955514+00:00","id":104040,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104056,"text":"And yes, for our European friends. It's football, I know, but we call it soccer over here. My apologies. It's the reverse over there. Okay, back to you, kid. I can tell you this, you're a scheduled screw up over here on the TV stations. KB3JQ. KB3JQQ, what happened on the TV station? Our local station tends to air every single one of the FIFA games. So as you can imagine, our team all screwed up for the rest of June. KB3JQQ. Who's the host broadcaster in the state? Is it ESPN? They have a local flexibility office and clear, and they intend to air every one of these FIFA games."},{"confidence":0.6558189184769341,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:05:04.976654+00:00","id":104039,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104055,"text":"But at this point in time, there's still well over 100 active fires across the country. And I believe last I checked there were 44 that were out of control, which isn't good. And the focus right now is Ontario and Quebec. Because the danger ratings in Ontario and Quebec, they've spiked up to high and extreme, depending on where you are. That's because the weather was dominated by ridgings, so it's been very, very dry. And of course, that's important for our American friends because everything starts burning here. And that's the most beautiful thing. And everybody gets angry. Okay, that's about it for me. And yeah, I think Canada performs well at the World Cup. They're all going to get blown out by Bosnia. It was a tie, although they should have had another point. It should have been 2-1. Anyhow, this is my take on that. Good for the US team, 4-1. That was very, very good for them and good for Mexico. Mexico also coming out. Okay, everybody in the all the home teams in the opening groups, walking away with a point, no losses there. Back to you, Ken, for net control. This is Victor Alpha 3, Victor with the X-ray."},{"confidence":0.7815715533991655,"created_at":"2026-06-14T03:03:30.289606+00:00","id":104038,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104054,"text":"And this was the City of the University of Washington. And this tape work, this tape work has been spreading. We were talking briefly about this on one of our local events here just recently. It came up, we talked about coyotes in the city and interactions with animals and that. And I happened to mention a tape work that could be picked up from coyotes. I thought it would expand on this a little bit tonight here for you. This tape work, it's been spreading, it's been spreading across North America. It apparently reached the Pacific Northwest. And the parasite is called, the scientific name for the parasite is Aquino cactus multilochoeira. And it's been found in local coyotes. And the parasite infects coyotes foxes and other canoes. And these animals often have..."},{"confidence":0.7146564072796276,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:58:54.306679+00:00","id":104030,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104046,"text":"how ever you wanted to find that's fine, but but but meteorological standards I would say it's going to be fairly strong on the end. You know and when the when the El Nino does occur late summer into the fall and winter what that does is it increases the upper level westerly winds across the Caribbean and the tropical Atlantic and that creates more vertical wind shear and that basically tears the tops of any developing thunderstorms and it basically prevents tropical waves from organizing into deeper persistent cyclones right they can't generate a warm core structure so hurricanes have a much harder time doesn't it's a probability of them forming goes down as a result of this. The other thing to take into effect is that the sea surface temperatures in the basin are actually a little cooler unlike they have been in previous years so water temperatures in central and eastern tropical Atlantic they're actually running a little cooler than average so that's starving any of the potential systems of thermal energy so that's working out for for less hurricanes"},{"confidence":0.8262339340788978,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:58:51.728476+00:00","id":104029,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104045,"text":"And it's been pretty quiet in the tropical regions. Not too much going on over the past week has been fairly quiet. The 2026 outlook, they're actually downgrading their projections to a below normal 2026 hurricane season. But forecasters, they are predicting about 8 to 14 name storms and 3 to 6 of those are going to become hurricanes. Let me drop it. And we're expecting a strong El Nino or a super El Nino. Some people are calling it to develop the, I've seen some crazy predictions. Anywhere from 1.3 degrees Celsius up to 3 degrees as far as the mean deviation goes. That varies based on the timeline for the data set that you're using. So take anything that's more extreme with a big grain of salt. But whatever the case is, there's good alignment throughout the models now that there will be a fairly strong El Nino."},{"confidence":0.853517105946174,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:58:49.283810+00:00","id":104028,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104044,"text":"2025 which is good but activity has started to ramp up over the past week due to we're seeing some more entrenched heat and prolonged dry spells. Now there was a big cool down over the western half of Canada with the exception of some parts of BC and of course eastern Canada but the prairies they were a lot lakula. I mean God Edmonton was like 10 degrees I mean that's incredibly cold for this time of the year out of the prairie other other places were only in the teens like southern Saskatchewan like I had it's cold. Meanwhile we were in the sauna over here for the the first game of the World Cup the opening game here on Canadian soil in Toronto was boiling it was like 31 degrees feeling like 38 sweating in the water out of the water sweating everywhere you go I like that kind of weather that's good but anyhow the point is it has cooled down in some of the areas where things were beginning to dry out let me drop it. But"},{"confidence":0.8766349240073136,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:58:46.320838+00:00","id":104027,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104043,"text":"I forgot to mention, sorry, with the super cell thunderstorms, there were different storms that moved through between the 9th and 11th in the Canadian prairies, predominantly affecting Saskatchewan and Manitoba. They had a couple storms over there. There was actually 250 millimeters of rainfall that fell, that's 9.8 inches. In addition to some four-inch stones, those are really big hail stones across parts of the Canadian prairies. And because of all this rainfall from these slow-moving storms, there were about 150 residents in the Swan Valley region. They had to evacuate because they were temporarily threatened by the integrity of a dam. They were concerned it would fail at Harvey Lake, it didn't, but they were concerned about that. And it's expected that there was some significant crop damage between the hail and overland flooding that occurred in the Canadian prairies. And the Canadian wildfire situation. The season, it's slightly slower than what we've seen with historic seasons, like 2023 and 2023."},{"confidence":0.98284092238949,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:58:43.718791+00:00","id":104026,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104042,"text":"But some areas are more particularly prone to the effects of El Nino. And the World Meteorological Organization, they've been actually warning some countries to prepare for drought conditions. So like the Horn of Africa, Central America, South Asia, these areas are more likely to see drought conditions with a strong persistent El Nino than other places. Depending on where you are, El Nino could mean warm and wet, warm and dry, wet and cool or wet and dry. Again, that's everything, but it just depends on where you are because there's a lot of variance with the weather. But again, for those issues, so the Horn of Africa, Central America, South Asia, those are the areas where there would be a greater prevalence of heat waves as well as a combined threat of more persistent drought, less rainfall, right? So that exacerbates anything there. Lastly, the other thing I should mention, that the situation... Two things to avoid."},{"confidence":0.8502600897442211,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:58:40.469068+00:00","id":104025,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104041,"text":"So one of the signs that we're seeing is there's already these large-scale rising air patterns over the central Pacific and they're sinking air over the Indian Ocean. I mean that happens all the time but we're seeing large-scale synoptic scale events occurring more regularly. So the pattern is setting up. I guess that's the best word I should say and that's basically a regular hallmark of an El Nino so that's when it's slowly beginning to take control of the global atmospheric circulation so that so that is already occurring that's what we're seeing and the El Nino is basically what it be as I've mentioned a million on that before that's when you have this rapid warming of the equatorial Pacific and it expands all the way from Australia over towards South America and as far as what the you know the world is a big place the weather varies everywhere."},{"confidence":0.6492486403268927,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:57:38.794197+00:00","id":104024,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104040,"text":"the brightness of a supernova changes of the universe's agent. If so, that could cause astronomers to mistakenly think the universe was actually falling down. So that was a, that's the exact theory that theory commodes 2025. The new study weighs all this arrest. What it found was that the problem was not with the supernova, but how the agent was an estimator. The 2025 study is not properly account for all the mass of the host gallopate. The standard correction is used in modern cosmologies and improved measurement accuracy. So dark entity doing exactly what they predicted to do, and it's still causing the universe to expand and accelerate expansion of that. Any additional stations like the China's comments? Come on in."},{"confidence":0.7401405040706908,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:57:20.767800+00:00","id":104023,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104039,"text":"All right Tom, D.H.T.E.R.E.V. You don't have the access if you're up to giving the climate update. Come on in and then after that, there's a report here on what to do. There's a simply tape form that's spreading across America, North America. It'll get into that in a moment. It has implications for pet owners. Tom, if you want to come back in. Yeah, Victor also three-picked it with the extra returning here, Kent. I will come in right now. It's giving me one second."},{"confidence":0.65104740858078,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:52:26.545429+00:00","id":104015,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104031,"text":"And the body and clean the brain. The upper key is where you are at. No property of where you are at. The cells across the tiny will be replaced. Any station comments? Come on in and then a little bit about the burnout. So."},{"confidence":0.9748510488022405,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:52:25.355405+00:00","id":104014,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104030,"text":"you have some very highly localized damage, or you'll get widespread damage, but significant localized damage is what I'm trying to say. So on June 10th, there's a fast moving to ratio, and that's what across Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan. And that produced a 644 kilometer swath of straight line wind damage. And they estimate the peak wind gusts there were 94 miles per hour, or 151 kilometers an hour. And the tornadoes, which struck with a, there was a line of storms, some individual super cells ahead of that line on June 11th. They struck areas that had already been impacted by the derecho, but the tornadoes themselves, it's that's because some of them took out some high-tension power lines. They actually knocked out 500,000 customers in the Midwest, 200,000 of those alone were in Cook County, Illinois. And there was numerous damage to buildings, utility infrastructure, roof, et cetera, et cetera. So that was it for severe weather there."},{"confidence":0.9746559285946811,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:52:22.388239+00:00","id":104013,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104029,"text":"And it had a 32 kilometer pass one pet was killed during the storm unfortunately It did level a farmstead and it destroyed a home and out building There were a number of vehicles and grain bins that were also damaged with that tornado. Let me drop it And in the States The the tornadoes that we were talking about on June 11th Those tornadoes that there was actually a combined Deracial with those with that storm system as well wasn't just tornadoes So the the line of storms have produced a series of down bursts and when you have a cluster of down burst together You'll have a deracial right you'll have different storms in the line We'll take turns producing down bursts and you get this big moving wall of weather and wind and some areas"},{"confidence":0.7916353854040304,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:52:20.226257+00:00","id":104012,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104028,"text":"EF3 tornado and it touched down near the Canada US border near North Portal and it tracked northeast for 32 kilometers before it roped out near Oxbow and the tornado it actually reached with the 560 meters so just over half a kilometer and it generated estimated winds of 245 kilometers an hour or 152 miles an hour. The next tornado there would have been June 11th and this was northern central Illinois and this was part of a larger widespread tornado outbreak and the National Weather Service they actually confirmed a high-end EF3 tornado in Washburn, Illinois and another EF3 in Street, Illinois and continuing on the same low-pressure weather system on the same day June 11th that continued on into Indiana and it produced an EF3 tornado and Cootz, Indiana and a significant EF2 in Maraville, Indiana as well. The EF3 which struck a Saskatchewan that knocked over some heavy pump jacks"},{"confidence":0.6613383650779724,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:51:15.183519+00:00","id":104011,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104026,"text":"There was a debate. This debate came up. This is after a group of astronomers published a paper claiming that there was evidence that dark energy was weakening. And this would affect the accelerated expansion of the universe. The scientists are proposing this new body of research in the sense that the approach for measuring cosmic expansion using supernova at some fundamental flaws. A new investigation of the University of St. Francis took a new look at the other data and came to a different conclusion. They said the universe is behaving exactly as current model for VIC. And this was published in the monthly notices of the world as an office of society. Not some Nobel winners were also participating in the study. Professor Adam Reese and Professor Brian Schmidt, both were contributors to the new study. Just dropping. And the study from 2025, the search that"},{"confidence":0.6729132786393166,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:51:12.907374+00:00","id":104010,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104025,"text":"Energy in general, when you increase the space, the force of the energy, the activity of the energy gets left. It starts to opaque, whereas in dark energy, it does reverse into the negative energy. The space gets bigger, the energy gets stronger. It becomes more encompassing. In this previous research, they were looking at it and saying, well, they think that over time, dark energy will start to lose its strength, and the universal starts to slow down at some point. It will start to reverse and collapse in on itself. That still might happen, but not with the understanding that we have now of the qualities of dark energy stopping. So our universe is still expanding, and it's still expanding and it's not already right. This research back in 2000,"},{"confidence":0.8367377370595932,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:50:48.356851+00:00","id":104009,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104024,"text":"And this was a study that was evolving about 4,000 adults aged 19 to 94. And they found that brain health can improve regardless of one's age. And this was a direct challenge to the widely held belief that mental sharpness inevitably declines as we get older. Volunteers in a study spent a few minutes each day, I was around 50 minutes each day, on brain training activities. And researchers discovered that there was measurable gains in multiple aspects of brain health, such as thinking clarity, emotional well-being, and sense of purpose to stopping."},{"confidence":0.8732225536886189,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:50:46.876335+00:00","id":104008,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104023,"text":"And this was a result of a three-year recent study, and this is on the University of Texas Alice, Center for Rain Health, CDH, and research has published in scientific reports in Nature Journal, and scientists tracked 3,966 participants ranging from 19 to 94 the group represented about one-fifth of the brain health participants, and over a period of three years participants did training, and the required will be around five, go to 15 minutes, and then each day, stop it."},{"confidence":0.84196487814188,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:50:45.449413+00:00","id":104007,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104022,"text":"And positive change is received even among those in their 80s. And this shows that the brain health training can be beneficial long before symptoms or disease appears and can remain effective in later rest stages of life. In fact, the study shows factors such as age, gender, and education level. That didn't determine if a participant would experience positive changes on it. So I guess there's a lot to say that we can learn and do new and different things at any age. And this is the H3K. If you'd like to direct your comments, come on in."},{"confidence":0.8590917348861694,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:50:40.732040+00:00","id":104006,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104021,"text":"Somebody sitting on their mic, okay, get your kid. Yes, I think we're okay now. And dark energy. And dark energy is managed to survive a major crisis. This is from the University of Southampton. And new research is just confirmed the University of Throughout Standing and doing so at an extraordinary rate. There was some research that come out a while back. I reported on this one with the science and that. And some scientists come up with a new theory about dark energy stopping."},{"confidence":0.7363238090818578,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:45:22.707742+00:00","id":103995,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104010,"text":"The trick is to keep connecting neurons together. No matter how old or young you are, because apparently they keep dying out, and the more neurons you've connected together, the more likely you're to bring and find the pathway through when one of them dies off. And one of your mini strokes, KP3JQ. And that's why you're thinking of a book, reading a book, just giving yourself engaged, giving yourself socially engaged with people, anything like that that keeps the brain active. It does exactly what you're saying. It keeps the neurons connected, establishes a neural, additional neural synopsis, and keeps the person sharp. So yeah, that's just a matter of, I guess, what that old thing, using or losing sort of thing."},{"confidence":0.9163425997830927,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:45:19.410266+00:00","id":103994,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104009,"text":"And we'll go ahead and explain to the brain. We're talking about some physiology here. Some of us will talk about the brain here. We can improve it at any age. And after this, some additional information about dark energy. And there was a study done not so long ago. I talked about it on the net. That study has now been proven. I'll talk about that in a moment. This one here is about the brain. There's a bit of some studies here. It's a very recent study. So how the brain can improve at any age. That sort of disputes what previous thinking was along with my. And this was the study of the University of Texas, Dallas. I'll stop it."},{"confidence":0.9048294499516487,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:44:15.895396+00:00","id":103993,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104008,"text":"back in 1907, Dr. Duncan, a doable from Massachusetts. He did this experiment where after a person passed away, he wanted to weigh them, and he determined 21 grams. It had left their body to weigh 1 grams of lighter, so he attributed to something that actually wasn't. So, it was a very small sample of patients. He was doing this with getting consistent results and a lot of replicable data as well. And then he also had inaccurate equipment. There's many reasons why that weight measurement would have shown after a person had that much data passed away. And he said, a number of universities up to the world, particularly in the US, are studying these right now for a number of reasons. Any additional stations out there, if you'd like to join us, comments,"},{"confidence":0.9517082311213017,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:44:09.591806+00:00","id":103992,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104007,"text":"of the survey of 215 University of Virginia physicians."},{"confidence":0.8381832506921556,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:39:38.159081+00:00","id":103987,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104002,"text":"Yeah, Victor Echo 1, VE1, Charlie, Mike, Delta, Mobile here. Cape Rotten, first name here is Corey, VE1, CMD Mobile. Cape Rotten, Canada, in the mobile here. I'll just give you a quick check in and in and out, but I will say hello and I'll be listening along. Over. Yeah, Corey, I've got you checked in. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for joining us."},{"confidence":0.5341296700330881,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:37:56.721893+00:00","id":103986,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":104000,"text":"And people coming back from NDE will sometimes report other anomalous perceptions such as autobody experiences. They describe feeling that there's only a world inside their bodies and observing what's going on around them. Some of the descriptions include objects and places that are going to reach for them when this is happening. And so for purposes of research, learning more about NDEs would be invaluable. But physicians are being instructed to, as it is right now, prioritize caring for the patient. So instead of shutting down a conversation with a patient about their experience, they're now being instructed to normalize it and ask what they remember of that experience, just to be able to do it. And that's it on mention to the physician."},{"confidence":0.9240215850227019,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:37:54.684262+00:00","id":103985,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103999,"text":"as most no longer field of passage of time. They report that time stopped or was actually no time at all, just nodding. And it's right here where vivid imagery occurs. And what's really interesting is that these are not regular memory, but enhanced versions. May reach a point of low returns, this is a tunnel or bridge or some sort. Then there's the awareness during resuscitation, too, which is called the awareness, too. Study has a comprehensive description of any ease in supplementary and some supplementary material. And these often result in positive changes for patients. They have an increased sense of meaning, a reduced fear of death, and enhanced pro-sociality. That's where actions and behaviors don't want to talk on benefit others, dropping."},{"confidence":0.8825030298903584,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:37:52.472768+00:00","id":103984,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103998,"text":"And very few of them were dismissive of the end the subject. The survey showed that the thing that slowed acceptance was knowledge. Most of them officially wanted to learn more about this subject, but there was little for them to study about it. And this is just one example of a domain involving transformative experiences that remain totally understood in the mainstream medicine. In NDEs, they're often best described as a strong emotional feeling of belonging or returning back home after a catastrophic event like that in the cardiac arrest. And this tends to translate into a detensation of melding or emerging with everything often referred to research as an ego dissolution. And getting a chronology of what transpires for NDE people is difficult. And"},{"confidence":0.8808650014301141,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:37:48.340857+00:00","id":103983,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103997,"text":"And this next topic for tonight is a mission earlier both NDEs, near-death experiences. And doctors now, and the field of medicine are taking these more seriously, now they're approaching them differently than they have in the past. And according to researchers in the field of NDEs, one of the 10 patients, who have had a cardiac arrest, when they're revived, they think they'll be revived, come back with a new core memory. And the experience tends to be so vivid. It will reshape the patient's worldview, how they review their own identity, and how they even view their thinking about an afterlife. In spite of years of academic research on NDEs, there's little. A little bit about the subject that is made its way through the medical school. In 2024, researchers, I can do this."},{"confidence":0.7040764074772596,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:37:39.410535+00:00","id":103982,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103996,"text":"All right, thank you for that tonight, Tom. I'm very informative. I enjoyed that very much. Thank you. Did you want to do the weather now or do you want to wait for a bit? I'll leave that up to you. It's totally up to you. You let me know. I'm good for whatever. VA 3 VWA. All right, let me go to a tour of three of these topics for tonight. I'll get back in and do the weather. And then I can finish up with the other topics after that. Any additional stations out there to join us? This is a science attack that can't hear VA 3, VA 3, VA 3, VA 3, VWA. If you'd like to join us, come on in."},{"confidence":0.5777538105845451,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:32:52.652421+00:00","id":103973,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103987,"text":"fire effect of the fact that allowed us to cook was that it helped us save off predators. The re-entitators, they'd be living in a cave and set a fire inside the cave and that would keep predators away all night. So if you saw a camp with a fire going, you could pretty well be sure that there's a safety there once the medication of dogs happened. All the same sort of effect. You had to argue on them around the camp at night and that's helping predation of the animal. So you actually saw some place that was a void of humans and you're going to be thinking the worst happened there. You know, predation or warfare or something happened. You have to come out of there. And I think that sets up at some point in time to set up some sort of evolution or you have to have a patient that we end up carrying with us. That was a void of flight, that was a very primitive reaction that we have, instinct we have. That's always what the survival instinct is. All right. And you just know, station, but the joins are calm. That's the view of a..."},{"confidence":0.8970216868699274,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:32:49.584589+00:00","id":103972,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103986,"text":"theorize to play a factor in these liminal spaces because they're so devoid of other life forms, does that mean that there's a predator in nearby? And just for the records, what this cane guide did, I don't want to, I mean, I don't know if people are interested in the movie or not, there are predators in this environment. I'm not going to get into more of it. And some of them are, it's interesting, I'll just say it's interesting, but from a psychological standpoint, that was part of it as well. These empty spaces might host or harbor predators that we can't see in one way or another. And this is the 83 year case. I'm not going to hog this a lot of other people, but you have an opinion or a comment. Yes, that's the other, that's the big aspect of it, really. When you see some areas that avoid all of a sudden, something bad happens, warfare predators, etc. Fires. Fires won't discover how to make fire one important thing to look at."},{"confidence":0.850518766408121,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:32:41.156275+00:00","id":103971,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103983,"text":"There's remnants of an old campfire. There's tools laying here, some weapons, but there's no one around. That's going to get a cue that something maybe bad has happened. So again, spaces that were once occupied by people, which should be occupied people and nobody's there, that's going to give people maybe a fight-or-flight mode effect. I could say for myself, if I were away for the day, let's say I was going up north to the day, just dropping. And I was with Jasper, let's say, and I was walking through the bush, and I came across a campsite, I came up with that up. Paraffinale was sitting around there, and I hung around for two or three hours, and no one showed up. That would start to give me an uneasy feeling, and you would think a boat may be staying away from that area. So the shortened scheme of it is, you have to wonder how much of this is just evolutionary adaptations for us. And that's it. I'm here at 3VWX. Well, you know what?"},{"confidence":0.9698426584713161,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:32:38.275422+00:00","id":103970,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103982,"text":"and he ties everything together, liminal spaces, various phobias and everything else. So that was a bit of a psychological and real world tie together what happened and how COVID-19 played a role in that and making liminal spaces become popular and what happened with them. So I thought that was interesting, a little different, interesting. Let me send it back to you, Ken. I don't know if there are any comments or questions. I don't know if anybody's been scared working the night shift somewhere. And this is the H3A, Ken. Thanks for that, Tom. Any additional presentations, like to join us, like to check in or any stations, like to check in and you may have a comment for Tom. Either way, come on in. That press Q in the comments."},{"confidence":0.8939849361777306,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:31:48.960378+00:00","id":103969,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103981,"text":"And come on in. Thanks. This is a QO Fox Strut 8 Fox Strut Sierra Quebec. I have spent a lot of time in grocery stores after hours doing meat room cleanup and truck work. And yeah, grocery stores can be very creepy when there's no shoppers. Alright, back to you. This is the KF8 FSU."},{"confidence":0.950873443003123,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:26:24.457525+00:00","id":103961,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103972,"text":"If you look at the record, if you look at the anthropological record, you'll see that very often when they came into contact with one another, they'd be fighting warfare, et cetera, and a lot of fatalities. Although they all look very similar to one another, they had enough differences that one could look at the other and tell that, well, you look almost like me, but you really are. So that sets up a precedent. So when you see something that looks almost like you, but not quite, that gives you kind of the creep factor and you back off thinking, okay, this is this could turn into be something nasty. So that could have been something evolutionary that's been passed out just dropping. In the middle of spaces, you know, it gives people the willies when they're walking through areas that avoid a few, and the same sort of thing. Evolutionary adaptation for that, if you're walking along, you're going through the woods, and all of a sudden you come into an area where you look and you can see, well, gee, this is how this here, this is."},{"confidence":0.7405447227799374,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:26:20.330698+00:00","id":103960,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103971,"text":"of books, a rack, something. It looks like a person or a figure. You get up close. OK, it's nothing. It's a completely enamined object. It's not what you perceived it to be initially. Again, that all ties back in. Go ahead, Ken. I'm sure you got great input. And this is VA3KX. I was just thinking, as Tom as you're talking there, about both of those, the liminal spaces on Ken's Valley Theory of the Valley Effect. How much of that will both of those would be evolutionary adaptation? Because if you think of it anthropologically, if you're looking at the uncanny Valley effect, going way back in our history, there was a number of homeowners living at the same time. There was Hall of Fabian, Fogans, Neanderthal, Oklahoma, and the Lady. And there's two or three others. I don't recall now, but."},{"confidence":0.8566409648311409,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:26:17.625937+00:00","id":103959,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103970,"text":"at times, right? Because, well, first off, you're expecting them to be haunted. Second, they're probably just empty spaces. They're not necessarily liminal spaces because they're often furnished, but not necessarily. They could be liminal in that nature. But at the end of the day, the idea is that it's what you expect is not what you visually see, right? And that's where that disconnect occurs. And then of course, the uncanny value effect, you apply that to a few things in the space. Even, even, oh, we've all seen that before where something is backlit or lit in a weird way, right? In the day, it looks one way at night or in poor lighting. It looks different. And it just freaks you out or sometimes perhaps is the opposite. Once the artificial lighting turns on and you have daylighting, oh, I think looks really creepy, right? Just because of the way the shadows are cast and it changes. What are features? And we've all seen that where you have something which is it you perceive it to be something that is not a pile of"},{"confidence":0.7334575057029724,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:26:14.726687+00:00","id":103958,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103969,"text":"All right. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for the comment. I don't comment. I've done a couple of comments here too. I was going to share with you giving some thought as you're going along here, talking about the mental spaces and the county area effect. But we'll wait to see if there's some additional stations coming in for comments or check in. Tommy, maybe you want to comment about that last station that came in. Can I have that as well? Yeah, no, a grocery source can be very creepy tonight, especially, oh, we're going to dim a few of the lights over here to save some power, or kill a section of the store, right? They could be very creepy. Especially if you hear a noise, right? You're only supposed to be in there with maybe a few other people, or maybe you're all alone and you hear a noise to anything, you know, paper, something finally sliding and falling over. You hear that noise, what is that? This place haunted, right? That's why haunted houses are so creepy."},{"confidence":0.6630467491017448,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:26:11.896626+00:00","id":103957,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103968,"text":"that really existed and people took real photos of it. So, Cade Parsons took what was a real story. He rebuilt the mall in CGI. The mall actually had some crazy stuff. People were squatting it. It's insane. Some of the photos from the mall before they tore it down. And he took this paper mache puppet, which was real. It's a little scary if you see some of the photos, especially if it's not lit well. And he turned this into a real antagonist. At least in his series where the puppets and canny presence, because it's so big and overbearing, he uses that and it basically chases people around. I'm not going to ruin the storyline for you. But I thought that that was interesting because Parsons, he basically integrates a real Dallas mall with its... and he uses its real internet-borne dread and he creates a tangible reality with it. So, it's very interesting."},{"confidence":0.8750724109559087,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:25:58.893476+00:00","id":103956,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103967,"text":"or had access to before they found it, and they shared it as the original photo on 4chan, and then it took off, nobody knew. And then again, in 2024, they discovered that, hey, this is actually a photo that was taken in June, 2002 of this furniture store. What was the remains of a furniture store in Oskos, Wisconsin, which is now a hobby shop. It looks nothing like it used to look, but apparently people still go there to pay homage to it, and a gentleman by the name of Bob Mazzah, he released the original photo along with the 109 photos, and they're actually still belong under the internet, and there's been some other stuff around it, but I'll explain where those original photos came from. Let me drop it."},{"confidence":0.9406332785729319,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:19:53.113209+00:00","id":103950,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103960,"text":"and it moves to a fictional shopping mall, but this is what I found interesting. So the setting of the story is actually at the Valley View Mall, which was a mall in Texas, and the antagonist in this movie, or in this short, is a rolling giant. And it's not really a traditional monster, but the main character in the story, why he's pursued by this rolling giant. And it's actually a digital resurrection of a real world artifact. The true story behind this rolling giant is that the giant was a paper mache puppet of the 19th century French botanist Julian Reverschaun, and it was created by a artist in Texas, Kevin Obergon in 2012. And it was eventually abandoned, not intentionally, but by circumstance, in the real Valley View Mall after the artists were evicted because the mall was closing down. And unfortunately, it was crushed during the 2019 demolition of the mall, but it was a real step."},{"confidence":0.8475993987172842,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:19:50.411146+00:00","id":103949,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103959,"text":"He took these liminal spaces essentially. He did various phobias combined everything together. It was influenced by COVID-19 because he was sitting around. So he worked on this YouTube series. And eventually he decided to make a movie. He had enough back funding for it or presale for it. And the way he went and it's worked out for him. So it's an incredible story of utilizing phobias, real liminal spaces, fictional liminal spaces and turning this into something very interesting. And something that I think many people can relate with. Let me drop it. One last thing. And this is interesting. I thought this was an interesting crossover. So in 2003, this gentleman came Parsons. He launched a video series called The Oldest View. And it's basically a serialized CGI horror web series. And what it does is it moves away from these liminal spaces."},{"confidence":0.5652566877278415,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:19:47.881382+00:00","id":103948,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103958,"text":"A Victor Alpha 3 Victor Whiskey X-ray at 4ID. So his actual film which is called The Backrooms is in theaters right now. It came out in the US on May 29th and I think it was the same release date in Canada. And he only had an operational budget of $10 million but the worldwide growth for the film is $240.8 million. This kid is a genius. So he filmed it on a lean budget and it was heavy CGI. However, there was a bit of CGI but they used practical set design for that. But he was a genius and he basically turned something which was a bunch of scrambled stuff on the internet into an alternative universe and turned it into production that took everything these liminal spaces."},{"confidence":0.923314094543457,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:19:45.866439+00:00","id":103947,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103957,"text":"and he built an entire world around them. And what he did is he posted everything on his YouTube channel and he actually took this lore that was sort of all over the place and he basically created a rule book for it. Sort of the same way that other rule books exist. If you start to track the next generation, et cetera. There are rules of the universe that you have to follow. You can't just do whatever you want to do. So he basically created his own mini web series about this and he created a shadow scientific organization called Async and all these other things. And he built rules and reasons for this existing, et cetera, et cetera. And he actually, everything changed. And he had a huge following on the internet, which eventually led him to work on a box office production, which is currently in theaters."},{"confidence":0.9042846199687725,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:19:43.444736+00:00","id":103946,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103956,"text":"A Victor Alpha 3 Victor was the X-ray 4ID. And now the last part of this digital lore, where everything comes together, don't forget we spoke about the COVID-19 panic. So, while a lot of people built these wikis and they sort of generated these expansive text-based iterations of the lore of the back rooms and these liminal spaces, etc. What ended up happening was a guy by the name of Cane Parsons that goes under the pseudonym Cane Pixels. He began his project at the age of 16 and what he did is he used an open source 3D computer graphics software application known as Blender. And he operated out of his bedroom and his personal computer and he used the original images that were pasted on the 4chan website to produce a series of hyper realistic VHS style footage set strictly within the mono yellow labyrinth that existed in these original photos. So, he basically took the photos."},{"confidence":0.8326792210961381,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:19:19.073641+00:00","id":103945,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103954,"text":"And of course these stories, they're designed to nerve readers and often they'll blur the line between fiction and reality. And because they're crowd source and evolved by online communities, they act as sort of the modern digital equivalent of what you would consider a campfire. Go story, right? Campfire. Go story gets told by your great-grandfather, your grandfather, your dad, you, then off to your kid. And you screw the story up or change it. But anyway, that's what happens, except this is happening on the Internet. Let me drop it. Thanks for watching."},{"confidence":0.5548111567130456,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:13:45.213844+00:00","id":103938,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103946,"text":"So, anyhow, this sort of brood on the digital boards for a while and people added stuff to it. But then after COVID-19 struck, it exploded because people were at home, they were bored, people were exposed to these liminal spaces that were dead, it allowed their minds to wander, and now they could take something they may have in some capacity experience tangibly and apply it to this developing internet lore of these empty spaces. And it turned into something where basically people said, hey, we're going to make an extra dimensional space that exists in the real world and you find it by accidentally slipping through a real space. So you accidentally, you lean on a wall and you fall into this next reality and you're stuck in this dead space where everything looks the same, it looks like a dead office or whatever the case is and you're stuck wandering forever. Now, that's basically what the digital world turned these liminal spaces into these."},{"confidence":0.5847420990467072,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:12:16.891558+00:00","id":103937,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103944,"text":"we're combining aquatic environments with sterile architecture, but there are people that are afraid of that. I don't know, I'll continue on in a minute, but I don't know if there are any comments, questions, or if there are some check-ins for the net. I'll send it over to net control for Ken there. A VA3KX, a VA3VWX. As a VA3KX, thanks Tom. Any additional stations out there would like to join us. Come on in."},{"confidence":0.7740258400638899,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:12:13.680770+00:00","id":103936,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103942,"text":"Tom, back to you. Alright. Oop. Uh, VA3VWX4ID. Thanks for that Ken. And by the way, if anybody's interesting, uh, five nights at Freddy's, that's the knockoff, uh, basically with the aton- a- a- tom- a- tom- a- tom's that come to life. Um, alright, moving on over here. So, all these things that I was just talking about, these liminal spaces and these phobias of, uh, different things that may occupy these liminal spaces, uh, they all- this all sort of came together, uh, unbeknownst to people, uh, with the pandemic in 2019. And this is when the internet sort of took over, and a bunch of things happened. Now, that's- look, as a teenager, I- I was fascinated by dead spaces. I- I wouldn't go crawling in sewers, in storm drains and stuff. But there were a few times where we sort of- we shouldn't have been in there, you know, I- I went in there."},{"confidence":0.8674895396599402,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:12:04.426508+00:00","id":103935,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103941,"text":"original text is basically in the way that it takes the it weaponizes language from video game glitches which they're talking about no clipping so if you ever played video games no clipping is you go through a wall or something right you're supposed to be saw the structure you know just a bitmap in the computer world you go through it right you clip you go through that's what it's called that's why that's what happens if you clip or no clip so and that's it again it's a programming command that allows players to walk through solid program boundaries sometimes intentionally sometimes accidentally and it changes the reality right what it's like if one of the codes what was it not IDDQ'd on do mo's it no clip right wasn't no clip the code for do for do of 95 you could go through walls and shoot all the monsters on Mars anyway so the idea was all of a sudden you might somehow go from this reality into this extra dimensional space"},{"confidence":0.6967441320419312,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:11:59.793192+00:00","id":103934,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103939,"text":"So in what was a bit of a perfect storm or perfect storm to come? On May 12, 2019, there was anonymous user on 4chan and on their paranormal focused board, they posted a thread asking users to post disquieting images that feel just off. And included in the original prompt was an uncredited mundane photograph of a crooked empty office space and the image that was posted was divided by its terrible, aggressive banality. It was basically this empty, mono-yellow wallpaper room where some of the wallpaper was appealing. It had these very harsh overhead fluorescent lights and a very heavily stained carpet. And everything in there was this mono-yellow shade. And because the image had no identifiable human subjects, no landmarks, no focal point, it was actually a perfect canvas for what would become future psychological."},{"confidence":0.9995820816548076,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:07:28.812027+00:00","id":103926,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103931,"text":"This is not really an aesthetic distaste, but it's fundamentally a result of evolutionary self-preservation. So, a subconscious biological effect from the appearance of disease or genetic anomaly or death. And it's a natural integral mechanism that's designed to protect the observer, so the human in this case, from potential biological threats. That person looks sick. That person's dead, etc., etc. I'm going to stay away because it's a threat to my health."},{"confidence":0.9083554754965008,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:06:45.816846+00:00","id":103925,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103928,"text":"And what their research goes on to suggest is that what also happens in these spaces, so mauled offices, once you remove office furniture, the space, it doesn't actually change. The space is the space. It doesn't get bigger. But our perception of the space increases, right? As you take stuff out of a space, it gets larger. You take everything out of the room in your house. You go, look how much space I have. The room never got any bigger. They just let it junk in there. Same thing occurs to these other occupied spaces. You take everything out. The space becomes bigger. You feel smaller. And you have also, what you expect is not what's there. You expect furniture. There's no furniture there. So it results in an atmosphere that's not overly hostile, but it is subtly threatening to you, right? And it sort of underlines, it mirrors the underlying tone that you would get with certain"},{"confidence":0.4890247732400894,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:05:50.952813+00:00","id":103923,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103925,"text":"an existential distress, spatial uncertainty, loss of orientation. Where am I going in this building? Everything looks the same. And it's a fear of being permanently suspended in a transitional state without a resolution. Let me drop it. And another, apparently it's a very popular fear, or a phobia, I should say, is automatonophobia. And this is a fear of animatronics, mannequins, wax figures. And the core physical mechanism here is the uncanny valley. So you get cognitive dissonance from imperfect human replication. This is why I never knew it at the time, but I had a friend that was absolutely terrified of Chuck E. Cheese. And I realize now that he had a phobia of automatons, right? You know the old Chuck E. Cheese. I mean, some of those things, you didn't have to make them scary for them to be sort of terrifying in a way. But I bought it for him."},{"confidence":0.6726084245102746,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:05:48.379053+00:00","id":103922,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103924,"text":"Victor Alpha 3, Victor Wiski X-ray. I'm going to take a pause for a second here, but real quick. So what's interesting is that their environmental design actually gives rise to a number of distinct but interconnected phobias. So a few of the phobias are, let me just go through them quickly over here. You have kenophobia. And this is your primary trigger avoids large bear in rooms, empty open fields, and it's disorientation, derealization, fear of asymptopulated expanses. And in movies, these spaces are used because of the absolute absence of familiar clutter, human presence. So that's what kenophobia would be categorized as. Liminophobia, so this is hallways, waiting rooms, endless corridors, and the core psychological mechanism for this is a"},{"confidence":0.74844602169469,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:01:05.880346+00:00","id":103911,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103913,"text":"A VA3VWX4ID is the... Today we basically see all robots manufactured in a way that defines them as robots. The only exception to that rule would be things that are intentionally designed to be human for other purposes other than specifically robotics. I'm not going to get into that. You guys know what I'm trying to say. You're going to... If you go buy a doll from the store, that's the road I'm going down. Okay, there's a different purpose for that, but we're talking about robots here. Okay, so the psychological mechanism that underlies the phenomenon, that's deeply tied to human ideology and this existential dread that exists. So more positive that a healthy living and moving human being sits at the second peak of the graph. When a human dies, the body ceases movement, it turns cold, the face pales representing a swift descent into the second peak directly into the depths of the uncanny valley. So therefore, the feeling of airiness..."},{"confidence":0.8225921426828091,"created_at":"2026-06-14T02:00:42.736767+00:00","id":103910,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103912,"text":"A picture of Alpha 3, Victor with the X-ray 480. So that explains the subconscious, what's going on subconsciously in the brain. And that largely explains why this phenomenon exists. Now, more theory, that was formulated exclusively for robots and human facimilies. And there have been subsequent academic applications and the reality into the realm of physical architecture. So according to another individual, there was research conducted by Dale and Lewis in 2022 and published in the Journal of Environmental Psychology. And what they say is that physical spaces can also fall into an uncanny valley of their own. And this expansion is critical to the understanding of the horror or the horror, excuse me, of liminal spaces. So what the study found was that traditional and canonists and robots, this is driven by category confusion and ambiguity. The uncannyness of physical environments is better to survive."},{"confidence":0.8859058108979038,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:59:25.977097+00:00","id":103909,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103909,"text":"So the context for this ambiguity, that goes back to the very origins of artificial human replicas. So the term robot, this was famously coined by the science fiction author Carol Capic, and he was deriving it from the Slavic War for Chor, which historically translated to slave or worker in languages such as Russian, Slovak, and Polish. And the presence of a machine that mimics human cognitive or physical capabilities raises profound anthropological distress regarding the boundary between the living and the artificial. So to mitigate that and easy effects of the uncanny valley, Mori explicitly advised designers to target the first peak of the graph. So this is the one where people find things that don't necessarily look human, but act in the human way is relatable or cute. So he recommended creating objects that are clearly non-human, but he evokes sympathy akin to stylized wooden sculptures that retain the natural color of wood, or a pair of eyes glasses that create a"},{"confidence":0.9340190295026534,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:54:54.305526+00:00","id":103901,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103901,"text":"for initially rises in a predictable positive correlation. However, this relationship isn't perfectly linear. Once the object reaches a certain point, which is specific to the individual, and the object becomes more lifelike, but it's imperfect. So its degree of human resemblance becomes more human-like. But again, it's an imperfect degree of resemblance. There's a sudden sharp and extreme drop in the popularity and affinity that people feel towards this. So when you represent this on a conceptual graph where the y-axis represents the milliarity or sympathy and the x-axis represents the degree of anthropomorphism, you see this sudden drop and it forms a literal valley of what he termed revulsion on the chart before sharply rising again as the imitation becomes almost indistinguishable from what we would consider perfection. Let me drop it."},{"confidence":0.8181210781137148,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:54:51.920704+00:00","id":103900,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103900,"text":"fully understood unless we look at some other psychological works and phenomenon. One of them is the uncanny valley. This was originally theorized in the seminal 1970s by the pioneer in Japanese roboticist Masahiro Mori. The uncanny valley provides a theoretical model charting the hypothesized relationship between an odd-jipped degree of human likeness and a human observer's emotional affinity towards it. For those that have been listened to this net for a long time, you'll remember Ken speaking about this probably about a year, year and a half ago when he was talking about robots. This has come up a few as a matter of fact. Let me drop it. A Victor Alpha 3 victory was actually a 4-D. So Mori's theory dictates that as an object such as a puppet, a prosthesis or an android, increases in its anthropomorphic resemblance to a human being, the observer's affinity and sympathy"},{"confidence":0.9796634150668979,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:54:49.596609+00:00","id":103899,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103899,"text":"that's what creates a liminal space. So, and this temporal suspension, if we want to call it that, this is what elicits a complex emotional response and it ranges from eariness and surrealism, in some cases, to nostalgia, sadness, and it also creates an uncanny mixture of both comfort and deep unease. Some people, they actually like the lack of social pressure and visual clutter and find that these empty spaces, in some cases, are very oddly calming. And other people are absolutely terrified of these spaces because they're so devoid of life. Now, all this is, of course, influenced by an individual psychological predisposition to ambiguity and isolation. But this is where it gets very interesting. Let me drop it. So, the eariness that we see with liminal spaces, that's not..."},{"confidence":0.9631451630953557,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:54:47.265503+00:00","id":103898,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103898,"text":"of transition from one period to another. So an example would be riding the subway or subway tunnel really, really late at night when nobody's there. You're all alone. And it's uneasy. You're the only one there. You expect there to be people, but they're none. Going into a mall after dark. The mall is closed. Nobody's there. You expect it to be busy, but it's not busy. Or an office space that has no furniture in it. All the usual stuff that's in there is gone. And it's just an empty room with lights hanging, right? It's a little, it makes you uneasy. Let me drop it. So in the real world, liminal spaces are typically these spaces. They're either temporarily in transition because of the time or they're in transition because they're going to be renovated or torn down or something's going to happen with the space, which is why it's the way it is. It's typically not like that, but it's like this. And of course, as a human, when you go into this space, the expectation of what it is is very different from the observed reality. And that's it."},{"confidence":0.5204883515834808,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:54:44.026447+00:00","id":103897,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103897,"text":"or not necessarily a modern space, but it's a space that is in between what you would expect or it's an in-between space. So if we aestheticize it, what we're basically saying is the liminal space, it's devoid of living things, other people or things that would be native to the environment. So environments like the ones that I mentioned, passageways, train stations, hallways, etc. These environments are engineered to accommodate mass human transit and when they're completely empty, they are unsettlingly devoid. And it gives people, people passing through them or people looking at them, a sense of isolation. And research indicates that these environments are liminal in a temporary way. They occupy fleeting space between use and disuse or state of mind."},{"confidence":0.8915647435933352,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:52:50.431539+00:00","id":103896,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103896,"text":"And this applies whether it's emotional or metaphorical or physical. We expect things to be a certain way. And it's in those in between spaces when things are changing, that's when you have liminality. So liminality is essentially a period that's defined by its ambiguity. And it lacks the typical established cognitive anchors that we're looking for. And that's and that's where this term originates. Let me drop it."},{"confidence":0.954940143210644,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:48:25.889631+00:00","id":103887,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103887,"text":"One way to look at it in architectural and environmental context is to say a physical liminal space would be defined as having their their status as Something which is let's say a zone of transit rather than a zone of dwelling So an example would be hallways waiting rooms train stations stairwells airport terminals, etc, etc These all exist explicitly to facilitate movement between one point and another Right you're going from a starting point to an end destination There are these these pathways are essentially utilitarian and purpose right they're designed with a very specific Purpose and that is movement, but they're not designed to be habitated or occupied right you're not going to permanently occupy or Continuously occupy these spaces. Let me drop it So when we define a physical liminal space, it's basically the in-betweenness of a"},{"confidence":0.8677845224738121,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:48:23.778166+00:00","id":103886,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103886,"text":"So basically it's, uh, liminality is, is when we don't know what to expect or what we're expecting isn't what's actually occurring. It's not there for whatever reason, the anchor that we're looking for, whatever kind of an anchor it is, a physical, uh, metaphorical, psychological that doesn't exist. Um, so, etymologically, the concept shares this linguistic roots with the term subliminal. And of course, subliminal denotes phenomenon that occurs strictly below the threshold of conscious perception. So both concepts together deal with the fringes of human understanding, the spaces and stimuli that exist just outside the borders of what we would define as a tangible reality. So over time, however, um, the psychological and anthropological state, um, that was sort of mapped into what we would consider, let's say, physical geography, that has given rise to the, to the newer contemporary concept of something we refer to as a liminal space. So,"},{"confidence":0.9481218382716179,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:47:57.633975+00:00","id":103885,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103885,"text":"I'll repeat, I have radios to donate to that cause. One or two, I want to build them a repeater."},{"confidence":0.7680142585720335,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:47:50.217028+00:00","id":103884,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103884,"text":"enjoying the summer weather. So let's talk about something that was interesting and we're going to look at liminal spaces, the uncanny valley effect, and how it plays into digital folklore. A quick question for anybody out there. Is anybody anybody on the net that is a movie theater recently? Anybody out there? About a year and a half. Okay we got one station about a year ago and then I think it was whiskey for whiskey delta. I missed the call sign. Come on in."},{"confidence":0.9586690627038479,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:46:58.061236+00:00","id":103883,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103883,"text":"Well we E3WO of mail I cannot connect to it directly so you're gonna have to do an alternate connection there KB3JQ"},{"confidence":0.9749459680169821,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:46:36.259833+00:00","id":103882,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103882,"text":"I think it's time we put together a fun ticket, Kenna, is an all-star nerd."},{"confidence":0.8504985459148884,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:46:35.819057+00:00","id":103881,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103881,"text":"and folklorist Arnold Van Genep in his seminal studies on the rights of passage. And Van Genep, he utilized the term to describe the middle stage of a ritualistic process. So it's a transitional period in human life or societal structure where the previous entity has entirely dissolved, but the new structure is not yet formed. In his early academic iterations, liminaly, this was fundamentally concerned with the human stance of becoming, representing the ambiguous threshold between an established phase of existence and the next phase of existence. So in his pure psychological manifestation, if you want to call it that, liminaly, what it does is it represents an in-between zone. So it's a period of vulnerability, suspension, it's sort of what came before and what has not yet arrived. Now, for humans, because the human brain is evolutionary wired to crave, what we refer to as homeostasis, which is basically predictability and a categorical certainty,"},{"confidence":0.7879507550123063,"created_at":"2026-06-14T01:46:33.387036+00:00","id":103880,"node_number":"683210","recording_id":103880,"text":"Well, there was another movie playing. It's not in all theaters, but I believe AMC, the big ones here, North America. I can't speak to other markets, but the big ones in North America, AMC and the Viacomel theaters. There is another one that's playing, and it's called Backrooms. And it showed up on my computer in a commercial, and I said, oh, let me look at this trailer. And then it sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole, and that's where this entire discussion came from. But we're going to circle back to that at the very end of this. So let's quickly look at liminal. And what are liminal spaces or the conceptual framework of liminality? Let me drop it. So liminality, so the term that actually originates from the Latin word, lime, and or lemon, which directly translates into threshold. That's what it means. And historically, the concept was formalized by the ethnographer."}]}